how well does the Pinch Training Collar work?
*~Mandi~* asked:
i was gonna wait till my dog got older she is 6wks old i had a husky we got from the pound but we had to get rid of him he wasnt good around children but anyway i would like more info on the Pinch Training Collar but cant find any. Any advice or should i just stick with choke chain? she is a black lab by the way.
im not gonna use either until she is older just looking into it.
wow thanx for the great advice i plan on having my vet fit the collar and there is a kennal that does puppy school here in town but she has 3 more sets of shots befor they will let her in so just wanted infor before i got the collar n put it away for later
Quinton
i was gonna wait till my dog got older she is 6wks old i had a husky we got from the pound but we had to get rid of him he wasnt good around children but anyway i would like more info on the Pinch Training Collar but cant find any. Any advice or should i just stick with choke chain? she is a black lab by the way.
im not gonna use either until she is older just looking into it.
wow thanx for the great advice i plan on having my vet fit the collar and there is a kennal that does puppy school here in town but she has 3 more sets of shots befor they will let her in so just wanted infor before i got the collar n put it away for later
Quinton
S H
31 May, 2009
Trish
How about some proper obedience training?
Shock collars, pinch collars, whatever are not what trains a dog. It is a person putting the time and energy into training their dog with accepted methods. Using solely a collar to train is irresponsible and lazy.
Mutt Mommy
2 Jun, 2009
Ruth
I use the pich (prong) collar. I think they are much better than choke chains. They don’t choke the dog, they just apply even pressure around the entire dogs neck. FYI though, get a professional to fit it on your dog, not a pet store employee. Damage can be caused if it is not fit correctly (needs to be fitted high on the dog’s neck, right under the ears… not the same placement as a collar).
Also, it should not be left on at all times. Only when you are training or walking.
ADDED: SH – try training a scent hound to pay attention while walking around in a new place… their ears turn off when their noses turn on. Sometimes, a prong collar IS necessary.
hayley
3 Jun, 2009
Chun
For pulling there is a collar that goes around the noes and prevents the dog from pulling it doesnt hurt them like a choke chain does.
K O
4 Jun, 2009
Abbey
Glad you added that you aren’t going to use either until later. I have a Rottweiler and use a pinch collar. Choke chains have been shown to damage the esophagus over time and for most dogs, it doesn’t work correctly. Neither should be used if you can train your dog correctly without them. (I just happen to have a very stubborn dog that is big enough to pull me around if he wants to!)
Take your puppy to puppy class where you will learn the basics and get your dog socialized, then start regular obedience when your pup is 6 or 7 months. She will be really distracted and not learn quite as well as older dogs, but obedience class is 90% for the owner to learn HOW to train a dog. I went to beginner obedience 3 times. Not because my dog didn’t learn, but the first time he was really young, the 2nd time we did great, and the third time just for fun. They love to know what you want, it makes them very happy! Good luck!
Kristi
7 Jun, 2009
Kristine
I think they make the dog more aggressive. and it ISN’T THE COLLAR that trains the dog ITS YOU who trains the dog.
I would say find a good reputable trainer, with your knowledge of your dogs breed. And forget about the collars.
unathefairy
9 Jun, 2009
Jacki
pinch and choke collars don’t train the dogs. it just hurts them. take a class with a trainer it will be well worth it in the end. think of it this way, when you go to school would you want your teacher to shock, pinch, or choke you if you answered wrong? not fun.
Andy B
11 Jun, 2009
Buddy
I have used both, currently I am using a choke collar on my bulldog, but I am going to switch to a Pinch collar. The reason is with bulldogs their windpipe isn’t that big so a choke collar would be unnecessary stress on his windpipe. The Pinch collar on the other hand, look worse than it is. When you pull the collar it closes around the dogs neck so there is pressure all around the neck not just at the point of the windpipe. Since you have a lab, my recommendation is to use the choke collar because you can get puppy ones and grow from there, please make sure you “snap” and release from THE SIDE, not above or behind the dog. Also, right before you snap the collar give the command and give the dog some time to understand what you mean. For example; NO say the word, if the dog continues, say NO and snap the collar. . .snap and release
DebbK
12 Jun, 2009
Kyra
A Prong collar was used on my dog when he went to school. He is a Standard Poodle and very independent. When used properly, these collars will not hurt your dog, but will provide “power steering”. The only time my dog wears it now is for walks, so he can’t pull ahead. He’s a different dog when he’s wearing it, not because it hurts; it doesn’t if used correctly. I think it makes him remember puppy school.
Most of the people answering gave you good info. The best info is let a professional fit the prong collar and show you how to use it for corrections to your dog, and you’ll be fine!
Little Red Hen
15 Jun, 2009
Jacinto
Pinch collars have their place, particularly if the dog outweighs you by a lot. The serious down side is that, like an e-collar, the dog feels its presence all the time (if it’s fitted properly). That makes it harder to transition to off-lead work.
Grandma of 2
15 Jun, 2009
Dortha
I would recommend the pinch collar to anyone. We took our black lab to obedience classes and used an ordinary choke collar. She would not listen to that in anyway, shape or form. She was basically the class clown and a total embarrassment. I was against the pinch collar because it looks so menacing. The instructor finally talked us into getting one. I went ahead and got one and put it on my dog. The first day we went out, I tugged (gently) back on the pinch collar to make her heel. Well, her head came up, she squatted and peed and was a PURE angel every day after that. Once the collar goes on, she is perfect. No pulling, tugging or arguing of any type. She is a perfect lady. Once it comes off, she is her crazy self again, but that is the way I like her. I would recommend it to anyone, BUT, please learn to use it properly.
BMTHESPIAN
17 Jun, 2009
Jae
I would definatly recommed the pinch over the choke collar. Choke collars have been show to damage both the esophagas and the vertabra of the neck. Pinch colars are valuable training tools in the right hands. They can be miss used either intentially or through being uninformed though so make sure to find a trainer or an experianced dog owner who is familair with there correct use to show you how to use it correctly. Other than that just make sure you have it properly fitted by someone experianced in using them. (Hint: if they try to put it over the head rather than unhook it they don’t know what they are doing) I would not recommned getting it now to put back for later. Pinch collars have to fit exactly to work correctly. You can remove and add links as needed bu the gage you use will have to be changes over time so I would not recommend getting it until you are ready to use it.
sjmdutch
19 Jun, 2009
Larita
There’s is absolutely nothing wrong with a pinch (prong), choke or electric collars. Not knowing how to use them is the problem. NONE of them are hurting the dog. I could put a dog in a padded harness, drop him 30 feet, then bring him to an abrupt stop….and THAT would hurt. Learning proper use of whatever training tool you use is the correct thing to do. You also have to realize that each dog has a different level of tolerance. For instance (generalizing by breed…don’t take this literally) a Newfoundland is normally had a harsh enough correction by whispering, “You naughty boy”. However, you can very easily run into an Airedale that would hardly notice a nuclear device inserted in his backside. In other words, know your dog….understand your tools…seek professional help…select your breed and breeder (or shelter dog) carefully.