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Q&A: MORE Psychiatric Service Dog Questions?

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Okay, this is kind of a branch off from my first question, if you haven’t read it here is the link:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Alx0VN8fuiAcfIde8b.GoH7ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20110310214759AA9M7W3

Okay, so the answers I got from my first question were very helpful, however I have a few more questions I forgot to ask in the first question or have only thought up recently.

So, here they are:

People have said I don’t need to certify my dog for her to be a PSD, so how to I have her recognized as one? Do I just get a special vest for her or something?

If my dog is still “in training” technically, can I still take her into public? Or do I have to wait until
she is already trained and everything?

I’ve heard a few benefits about have service dogs in homes like that don’t allow animals or something about deposits, what is all that about? Can someone clarify that for me please?

Okay, so in one of the answers in my first question they said I would need a doctor’s note saying that a PSD would be best for me, okay, say once I got that, what would be my next step?

Oh yes, there is talk about I guess that service dogs may be forced to pass the CGC test before becoming a service dog, my dog would pass with flying colors except she fails miserably at one out of the ten items and that is the Supervised Separation.

When I am HOME, I can separate myself from my dog and she will be relatively fine with it. But when we are in PUBLIC, if I leave my dog for so much as a few seconds she totally flips, freaking out, whimpering, trying to follow, etc.

How can I stop this? she only does this with me, no one else, so how do I train my dog when I can’t be there for the behavior? I’ve tried all I know, that’s why she’s so good at it at the house, but it’s just when in public she just won’t be calm.

Okay..I THINK that is all my questions. hopefully anyways. lol
I did end up thinking of a few tasks that she can help me with and I’ve already begun training her. She is already picking up on them!

So any MORE helpful answers on this subject would be really appreciated! Thanks in advance!
Mama Tex- This is VERY helpful! However is this the only organization like this? I ask because we are tight on money at the moment and I do believe we cannot afford $ 160 on this. :/ I mean I can try but I don’t think we can let go of that much right now, even given the circumstances.

Mama Tex- Thanks for finding that, it is very helpful and I will look into it!

BMT-(Er sorry forgot the rest of the letters in your name) Well if they don’t need any type of certification or vest of anything then how will the public not think that I’m just saying my dog is a service dog just to gain access? I know that you can get fined and put in jail for that…And without any kind of certification or anything how would I prove to people that she IS a service dog?

And my dog is actually VERY stable, I know with that extra piece of knowledge it’s hard to believe. But like I said, she is perfect for this EXCEPT for that one thing. And I know they don’t have to pass the CGC now, but I guess they MAY in the future. Just words I heard. And I wanted my dog to pass the CGC anyways, because before hearing about PSD, I wanted her to be a therapy dog.

BMT- For your add, yes, I read up on that, I have found tasks for her that she can help me with given her small size, and I have already begun to train her. She already naturally alerts me to the beginnings of a panic attack by jumping at me until I pick her up and focusing on me. So one thing I am going to teach her is to “Touch” me when she feels an attack is about to happen, this way she doesn’t just look like a spoiled dog that wants picked up, which I’m sure she does look like. Plus I’m training her several other commands as well.
BMT- I forgot to add, I would train her to lead me out from a situation that triggers an attack but she’s so small would she actually be able to do that? I mean I can have this dog pulling with all her force and can hold her leash with two fingers…

Best answer:

Answer by Mama Tex
There is no governing body that makes laws or requirements for service dogs. Your dog must be potty trained and well behaved in public. You can not be turned down for an apartment because of a dog you can not be charged for a service dog (a non refundable one). When you go online and apply for a tag/certificate for your service dog they also offer vests and id tags for the dogs collar. You do not need a note from a doctor. Your dog can not act up or you can be asked to leave. You need to be sure your dog is well trained and socialized or you will be asked to leave based on nuisance not based on having a service dog. They do not need a CGC.
This site will help a lot also you can get your certification for your dog here. https://www.certifymydog.com/Home_Page.html
I can send more links give me one minute
This one is $ 65 http://www.nsarco.com/

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  • It the US certification is not required. You must meet the basic requirements of you have a disability under the ADA and the dog performs some task that mitigates that disability. The dog must also not be disruptive or behave in an aggressive manner or even if you mean the other requirements it can be denied access. You’re dog is not required to wear a vest, tag or any other identifying equipment unless it is needed for the tasks it performs.

    Service dogs in training do not have access rights like a service dog does. Some establishments will allow access to service dogs in training but you must request permission and they have the right to deny access.

    You don’t need a “doctors note” however you must be diagnosed with a condition that would make you disabled under the ADA. As for housing certain types of housing (ie government housing) would be required to allow you access with a service dog in no pet housing however private individuals would not be required to allow you access)

    No service dogs are not required to pass CGC or any other test outside of performing some task that mitigates your disability they simply must be well mannered, non-disruptive and not display any aggressive behavior.

    Based on your dogs behavior in public if left alone even briefly it sounds like her temperament is not stable enough to be used as a service dog, and you may be better off keeping her as a pet only and finding a more temperamentally stable dog for use as your service dog

    As for the link Mama Tex provided you don’t need to send money to them or anyone else. Those organizations are after your money and that is all you are not required to have any type of certification, certificate etc

    Add: I just read your previous question and saw you questioning what task your dog would need to be trained for. In this case the dog would need to be either trained to recognize situations that would provoke an panic attack and direct you away from them or preform some task that would “break” and attack reaction.

  • to qualify as a psychiatric service dog the dog would have to perform a task that helps with your disability … licking you when you are having a panic attack would not be sufficient to qualify your dog as a psychiatric service dog … a psychiatric service dog is a trained dog and not a well loved pet … the best would be an emotional support animal …

    “I can’t go out alone because of social phobia; my dog makes me feel safe enough to go out to the grocery store and other places I need to go.” This describes an emotional support animal, not a psychiatric service animal.”

  • Service dogs are not required to wear vests, special collars, have special tags, be ‘certified’ or anything like that at this time. Many service dog users do use things to identify them as such. I use a vest. Sadly this stuff is available to anyone so many ‘fake’ SD are also wearing vests, tags, special collars, etc.

    For service dogs in training (SDIT), it depends upon which state you’re in. Federal Law says that only SD be allowed access. There is nothing in the act about SDIT. Some states have special provisions about allowing access to SDIT.

    Landlords must allow you to have your SD. They cannot charge an extra deposit for pets or tack on extra to the rent. Reasonable accommodations must be made. Most landlords require a letter from a doctor stating the disability and the reason for the service animal. Some land lords require that this be renewed annually. This is where the letter that you mention comes in. You do not have to carry a letter with you at all times indicating your need for a SD.although many people do,

    There has been a lot of talk the last few years about mandating that service dogs be able to pass an accessibility test as is done in other countries. The minimal requirements would be based on the current CGC test. This is being talked about because there are so many ill mannered untrained, ‘fake’ SDs that are being allowed access. This is making it difficult for those of us who have a legitimate disability to gain access for our service dogs. At this time, passing a test is not required.

    To help get your dog over her separation anxiety there are several things that will help. Start off by training your dog to do a one minute sit and down stay. This means that you require your dog to stay in that position for at least one minute. Use only one command and expect results. Once she can do this in a quiet environment start adding distractions, like walking around the room; walking in and out of the room; dropping pans; rolling a ball; etc. Once she is comfortable with this start extending the time that your dog must remain in position. Again start out with no distractions and then start adding distractions. Start adding people to your distractions. Have friends mill around; have them walk around the dog; have them even pet her. Make sure that your friends use neutral body language. Have a friend hold her leash as you leave the room. Now start taking your show on the road. This means taking your dog outside and repeating your training from the beginning. You may be able to do your steps faster since your dog will/should remember them from training in the house. Start out just in front of your house at first. As she and you become more comfortable, work further away from the house and in more distracting environments. Enlist your friends again. Have your friend hold the leash, give her the down command and walk away from her. If she gets up you must come back and correct her. Your friend does not correct, she just holds the leash. Do this until you can walk away from her and she will stay with you in sight. After she /you are comfortable start hiding out of sight like around the corner of a building. Do this for only a second to two. Come back praise, release and treat. Start extending the times. During the CGC test. Have the dog down while you give the evaluator the leash. Walk away just as you do in training. Having the dog do a sit or down stay during the supervised separation is not a requirement of the test. However, I find that the dogs that are put in a sit or down stay during this part of the test pass it more often. I feel that this is because they are actually following an understandable command which reduces their stress level a lot.

    Having your dog lead you to safety is going to be difficult because of her size. You need to train yourself to follow her during a crisis event. I’ve had to do the same with my 35# seizure alert dog. If she gives me a certain signal (leaping at my face) then I know that it’s time to go. It is up to me to trust the dog and follow her. Having her touch in a certain way or in a certain place would be an easy way for her to warn you that you both need to leave.

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