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questions about service dogs!!!!?

Question by Wolf In Me: questions about service dogs!!!!?

i have a few questions about service dogs.

1. do they have to be big? i have a chihuahua / min pin mix that i want to try on and his head is as tall as my knee. would he be good at it?

2. if they have a “service dog in training” badge can they go most places? like in stores and stuff?

3. he likes cats, most all dogs, and hes only a litttllle bit protective of me but im working that out.

4. what would be some neat first tricks? (example. Geting me a waterbottle or a coke and being able to tell which from which)
i didn’t mean tricks like it sounded…
i ment doing things. and i am training him for a good reason. my dad is wheelchaired bound and can’t even feed himself. i thought it would be nice for him to have someone to fetch the remote or get him a drink or reach for somthing he can’t. so don’t treat me like a “she does it to show cool tricks and get the dog places” yeah no so dont please.
he can’t even do anything! was i wrong to ask a simple question on how to make my dads life easier. what kind of people are you? and its not for just fetching stuff its to warn us of danger with him and all stuff. just straight answer the question or go away.

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Answer by sjt_tn
It depends on what time of service dog you want. If you want to him fetch and retrieve things he could be used for small things. But medium sized dogs are more suited for such things. He could be a use as a seizure dog or emotional support dog. If takes extensive training anyway you look at it. These services are not considered tricks.
Service dogs by law can go anywhere the owner goes, but don’t be surprised if your questioned. Most service dogs need to be licensed, certified and photoed by a recognized institution.

Any service dog need to be totally obedient to the handler/owner.

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  • Service dogs in terms of what? Actual service dogs [seizure dogs, guide dogs, etc.]? Or in terms of therapy dogs?
    1. Small dogs are successful service dogs, too! As long as you keep them trained unlike 3/4 of the small-dog owners out there.
    2. Service dogs go everywhere with their owner. Therapy dogs do not.
    3. Work it out and then go from there. A dog with any aggression issues not taken weaned out won’t be a successful therapy/service dog.
    4. What do you mean, tricks? Dogs become service dogs for people that NEED their help – not that want to see a cute dog do a cute trick.

    If you’re thinking of training your dog to be a service dog – it needs to be used as such.
    DON’T train your dog to do silly nilly tricks around your house for your own amusement – and then use their Service Dog vest as a way to bring your dog everywhere with you.

    ETA:
    If your father needs a service dog – then go through a Service Dog Organization.
    Your dog might be special to you, but it’s too small to be of *nearly* the right amount of service that your father needs.
    The dog’s jaws are too small for many of the things that service dogs are trained to retrieve for the owner – and that’s the biggest downfall.

  • I swear only a 14 yr odl would ask something like this

    1. Depends on what type of service/assistance dog they are. Considering this dog has a lvl 5 heart murmur and was coughing up blood 3 weeks ago I doubt he’d be a suitable service dog for whatever reason YOU think you need one.

    2. Yes since most states view in training and fully trained dogs as the same.

    3. Service dogs have to be well trained and socialized. Aggression in any form is not acceptable. He’s not protective that is dominant behavior.

    4. Service dogs are service dogs not entertainment for their owners.

    Since I have a feeling you just want to take your dog all over the place I suggest you find some other way to occupy yourself rather then trying to pass your PET off as a service dog.

    ETA: I your parents are interested in getting a service dog they will seek one out for your father. Service dogs have to be well trained and healthy, you have a dog whom you admit has a sever heart murmur. He’s not suited to being a service dog. Bring up the idea of a service animal to your mother but considering how she feels about having another animal in the house in general it may not happen.

  • In order to be a service dog, the dog must be trained to help you with a specific disability. They don’t do “neat tricks” like getting you a coke.

    1. Service dogs can be any size. There’s no telling if your dog will be a good service dog. Find a trainer who does CGC training and see if your dog makes the grade.

    2. Only if the dog is actually providing a service.

    3. If he’s overly protective of you, then he cannot be a service dog.

    Again, if you do not have a disability, your dog will not be a service dog.

    ***I did some more research and have modified my answer***

    Added: Protecting his things will not make the dog a service dog, either. If your dad is wheelchair bound and needs the help of a service dog, then you need to get a real service dog that can help him live life. This will likely be a larger dog and the dog will be specifically trained to help your dad’s specific needs. I actually know a Doberman breeder who breeds dogs that excel at being service dogs, should you be interested. http://logresfarm.com/Ch.%20Logres'%20Tungsten.htm

    If you can get a dog that helps your dad retrieve things like a phone to call someone in an emergency, his medication, or even to dial 911 with a command, then then it may qualify as a service dog because this would be directly related to his condition. The problem is it doesn’t sound like your dad is out a ton and when he is, he has someone with him who would perform the same duties, so your comment of getting the dog into stores may be moot. It would be more about traveling with the dog.
    Your family should speak with a trainer who trains Service Dogs and see what kind of training a legit service dog would best suit your father. http://www.deltasociety.org/Page.aspx?pid=304 may offer you some more guidance.

  • What kind of service dog are you looking to get? There’s several types, namely:

    Service Dogs for the Armed Forces: Search and Rescue, drug sniffing, finding mines, etc.

    Disability Service Dogs: These come in two types, depending on the issue. There’s dogs that assist with physical disabilities such as blindness and being deaf. You can find more on them here: http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/service.html

    Psychiatric Service Dogs: They come in 2 types. The first is the Psychiatric Service Dog; these dogs are trained to assist their owner with mental conditions that can be disabling, such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or extreme Agoraphobia. They bring medicine, lead their owner home/to a safe place, can turn lights on and off, can lead medical assistance to owners who panic and hide themselves, etc. These guys have to be trained like a Disability Service Dog.

    Emotional Support Dogs: These dogs can be described as “PSG Lite”. They help their owner cope with less disabling issues. I currently have one/am looking for one. These dogs are not necessarily dogs; these are animals that your doctor recommends be allowed to stay with their owner when they would otherwise be banned (such as in no-pet apartments, hotels, etc). I currently have a cat semi-trained for this purpose.
    These animals are usually trained by their owner, to help in times of emotional stress. For example, I have severe depression and anxiety attacks that are triggered by being alone for long periods of time; a dog, for me, would be trained to know when this is happening and try to distract me by getting me to play with him or go for a walk. My cat knows to snuggle or play with me and try to distract me.
    You can find more about these two types here: http://www.psychdog.org/

    So overall; yes, your small dog could be a service dog. It just depends what kind, and in the case of the actual disability dogs you need to be aware that their training is extensive and could be very expensive.

  • First and foremost, in order to use a service dog and have public access with it in the US, you must be considered “disabled” under the terms set forth by the US Department Of Justice as stated in the Americans With Disabilities Act…….AND the dog MUST be individually trained in work or tasks that mitigate the effects of said disability. If you are not classified as disabled or the dog is not work or task trained, then it will not be considered a service dog under any conditions.

    Second, service dogs DO NOT perform tricks. They perform tasks and do work that their disabled handlers cannot do on their own. They help their disabled handlers live a more independent life and keep them safer during travels. No “tricks” involved.

    Yes, they can be any size and breed. No, they cannot “be protective”, as this disqualifies them from the Public Access Test. They cannot show any form of aggression in public.

    The individual states have laws pertaining to handlers of dogs in training. Federal laws are silent on the subject. You must check with your state to see if the handlers of dogs in training are protected the same as actual service dog handlers. The dog itself DOES NOT have any “rights” to be in public; only the disabled handler or trainer has the right to be accompanied by their properly trained and behaved service dog. There is no lawful requirement for any type of “ID” or “certification” for a legitimate service dog.

    Military, Police K9, search and rescue, drug detection, ESA’s and the like are not service dogs, they are working dogs. The Department Of Justice specifically defines a service dog as one that is individually trained to mitigate the effects of their handlers disability, and since the other jobs those dogs have do not mitigate disabilities, they are not legally classified as service dogs and their handlers do not have public access rights with them.

  • 1. It really depends on the task you need your dog to do the size he needs to be. A dog that is used for support or pulling needs to be large. A dog that will be retreiving items for his owner can be any size.

    2. It depends where you are what the laws are pertaining access. In the US, for example, there is no requirement for certification (but must have speciailized training which you can do yourself or someone can do for you) but in Canada, a dog must be certified to have public access. In the US, it varies state to state but you can get special advance permission from some stores (talk to management & get it in writing) to be allowed to train. In Canada, dogs in training are not allowed public access without special permission.

    3. Any dog that shows aggression towards anything (especially other people) should not be a service dog. You will get yourself a lawsuit, never mind removed from a public location.
    If you can get help and change how your dog feels about strangers (called counter conditioning) and you are successful, only then would I consider the dog for service work. Work on that first. The other stuff later.
    Consider taking the Canine Good Citizen Test through the CKC as a starting point, http://www.akc.org/events/cgc/training_testing.cfm

    then aim for the Public Access test as your final.
    http://www.assistancedogsinternational.org/publicaccesstest.php

    If he can’t pass these, he wouldn’t be suitable as a service dog.

    4. Check out the http://www.iaadp.org/A-dogWorld.html for a list of service tasks to choose from. Select ones that would truly improve your father’s life. Once you understand the basics of training, you can train any task! You’d need a minimum of 3 tasks done in public. Meanwhile your dad can still use him at home as you train.

    Check out my blog below for step by step instructions on how to train speciffic tasks as well as some ‘how to’ videos too.

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