Remote collar? (opinions) (thoughts) (sucess stories)?
Question by : Remote collar? (opinions) (thoughts) (sucess stories)?
Some people find them cruel and some people adore them. I’ve recently been looking into one for my 2 year old havanese. So here is my situation. When I got her she was awesome off leash , then she got more independent. Not a good thing. So she listens in the house to basic commands like sit, stay , laydown and hight five but when we are outside on a leash she barks and people, dogs, everything! When there are no distractions outside she will sit on a leash but that’s about it. The second I take the leash off she runs unless I have good treats like cheese or meat. I saw numerous videos on YouTube of dogs off leash with a remote collar and it really seems to work even after you take the collar off . And I am not talking about the ” shock collars” I’m talking about simulation and vibration. Opinions?
Oh and if you don’t know what a havanese is it is small about 8- 15 pounds. Mine is 11 , fairly common size.
Thanks!
Best answer:
Answer by UHave2BeKiddingMe- HO HO HO
I know plenty of people who use E collars for training.
Their dogs have Obedience and herding titles.
Here is THE guru on E collar training- Bart Bellon
He starts them with e collars as puppies.
No one can argue (no one with a brain) that this dog is not the happiest and precise performer
On our E collar training board the photo on the opening screen is a Pomeranian with an e colalr.
Size does not matter.
Goggle Bart Bellon and visit his site as well.
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Paramore4ever!
29 Dec, 2011
theres always a better way then a remote collar remote collars usually make it worst because the shock not only physically hurts them but emotionally too
eharri3
29 Dec, 2011
It is an ESSENTIAL item for any dog owner who EVER lets their dog off leash in a setting where you cannot reach out and grab them by the scruff of their neck to reinforce the ‘come’ command. And most dog owners will at some point fall into that category. My wife is largely ignorant on these subjects aside from the horror stories you hear about people using them in-correctly, using it at the wrong times and on the wrong settings. She hears ‘collar’ and the first word from her mouth is ‘no’ because she’s never actually researched it or had experience with one beyond 2nd hand misinformation.
Why do most dogs listen inside the house but not outside if you’re more than 10 feet away? Or ignore you if you take the leash off? It is because they are not able to adhere to training in the face of distraction. Also because they quickly learned that if you cannot reach out and touch them or make a leash correcton, you have no way to reinforce a command. So there will be no consequence to them if they ignore you to check out a distraction they find more interesting. At the same time, if they are within reach or are on a leash, they know you have a way to reinforce that command. So they are more likely to obey.
A properly used collar teaches a dog that leash or not, 5 feet away or 20 feet away, whether there’s nobody else around or 20 other dogs going crazy and having a ball, commands will be reinforced and must therefore be obeyed. Each time you let your dog walk away from you off leash then try to get him to obey by repeating yourself 20 times you reinforce to them that you are powerless to enforce your commands when you cannot physically touch them, so they can get away with being disobedient and leading you on a foot chase.
I can only imagine
29 Dec, 2011
@Ivette Yutang: Are you a stupid scammer??? You said the SAME THING on my math question.
Anyway, I think that it is kinda cool for those things. I don’t know how you can stop her from going to do those things unless like you said, have a treat.
♥ Raw Pugs ♥
29 Dec, 2011
Well, for the barking at people and dogs there is a solution, without any kind of training gear.
(I’ve handled this problem before very successfully, with positive reinforcement)
When a dog or person or child or anything that may make my dog bark i would Click and toss a treat down infront of him as soon as the thing came in sight, just before he had a chance to get over aroused and begin barking. I would do this as we passed also. If at any time the leash went tight or he barked i immediately, without hesitating lead him away from what he may have been barking or pulling towards. Basically, he learns that the behaviour you want is for him to remain calm past these things. It is normal for the dog after a while of this training to closely watch the ‘thing’ as it passes by, but continue the training and over time they won’t look, and will continue to walk as they gain confidence. I always have my dog off lead at the park. He doesn’t walk ahead, he walks beside or behind simply because i reinforced staying close by. If he ever went too far i hid behind a tree and watched him and he would realize i had gone and get worried and look around, then i would call him and he soon learn to stay close by. Even off lead, if i stop walking, he stops. If a dog passes, he walks beside me and watches me.
Now i can have my dog walk on lead or off lead next to me past lunging, growling or barking dogs of any size without him reacting. I’m not talking about dogs across the street, im talking about dogs less than a metre away! past screaming children or running children, past men and women, past scooters or skateboards or walk through crowds of children (Who he was once terrified of, but now loves btw) etc.
I expect TDs as alot of people don’t seem to agree with having confident, happy and fun loving obedient dogs. That’s ok, they can continue to hit and yell at their dogs or choke them. Every dog i pass with owners who do those things their dogs always tend to lunge or growl at mine, as mine happily walks to heel past them.
Beckay Cwoe
29 Dec, 2011
When dogs are puppies they tend to just stick around you when you take them off leash because they arent confident enough to leave you, as they grow up, this changes and they no longer require you for protection. One basic command you didnt mention in the house was “come”. personally before you go out and invest any money in to collars that may not work for you i suggest you spend two weeks with your dog having a little bit of a boot camp. Get her coming to you while you’re in the house, with our dog we found it helped if we used her name first, this way it got her attention and she could then listen to the command, so we say “Minnie, Come.” and then when she does she gets a treat and she is asked to sit in front of us. until we let her go. This starts to train her that she is to come and sit at your feet when you call her, as you progress with this then take her into your back/front yard, some where closed off but with more distractions of birds etc. once she has mastered this then take her out for an offleash walk and put it into practice. Eventually you will be able to remove the need for two treats and only reward her once she comes and sits infront of you.
One other thing to remember is that dogs work for us, sitting, staying, coming, and even a high five is a job for our dogs, we are asking them to do a task, and you need to consider whether or not you would work for free? And im assuming its a no. So dont think of having to offer your dog a reward for his behaviour a bad thing, you should offer a reward for him doing a great job.
Dustin Horn
29 Dec, 2011
If you have never used one before no. Some people think they are a fix all wonder and its not. Tend to be over used and can make the dog very timid when it has the collar on vibration and buzzing is very unusual and can cause them to be scared of it. Example friend had a dog would run off sometimes when it would go outside. He went strait to the E-collar route instead of taking time to train the dog with voice commands. Made the dog so scared it wouldn’t even leave the porch with or without the collar on. I have a doberman and believe that if you train your dog right they are not needed. My dog comes to me no matter what on voice commands. Take the time to work with the dog in a firm voice let it know you are in control.