MyDogRules asked:


Vibrating Collars, can you use them on dogs that can hear or only def dogs? How do you get your pup used to it?
My little pup behaves and I don’t want to use it to discipline or punish her, but I’ve become a weekend warrior dog trainer (I don’t get paid, but I’ve really love working with dogs and I’ve always got people asking for my help). And now someone has asked me to help with their older dog that’s going def, my pup knows lots of hand cues, but without getting her attention, of course, she doesn’t see commands to follow the cues.

So, I did some digging and see a lot of people with def dogs A) keep the dog on leash all the time, or B) use the vibrating collars, so the dog looks for the commands when it feels the collar

So, this guys 10yr old jack russell has way to much energy to be kept on leash & is well behaved when it knows what you want from it, but its been having trouble, as its is almost def now, you really have to yell at it to get its attention and its getting jumpy, probably gets startled not hearing things come up on it.

So, I’d like to use my dog as a Guinea Pig. She already knows the hand commands for many things like come,down,sit & stand, so we’ve got head start & I can focus on getting her used to the collar & following commands with out verbal cues. The Jack Russel already has to start learning hand cue’s for the commands, so I don’t want to jump right into a collar too to just compound what it has to learn or get used to.

So, my question is, how do you desensitize the dog, so it doesn’t see the vibration as a punishment, but as a cue for ‘look at me’ & even tougher, how do you get the def dog used to it?

Is their any negatives with using one of these things? The cheapest one we could find is a combo shock/vibrating one…I do think their is some cases where you might need a pinch or shock collar, but both my pup and this other dog are good dogs & we are not interested in punishing our dogs, but we want to improve the quality of life for his def dog and we are both short on extra $$, so cheep is good on the collar & my free training is all he can afford….trainers at petco are no help & the only experienced trainer who he found to help wanted 150$ an hour..phhh, whos got that kinda cash.

Anyone with a def dog? Anyone use one of the things in any context, for corrections for fun? I need some input!!

THANKS!

Jamie

MyDogRules asked:


My little pup behaves and I don’t want to use it to discipline or punish her, but I’ve become a weekend warrior dog trainer (I don’t get paid, but I’ve really love working with dogs and I’ve always got people asking for my help). And now someone has asked me to help with their older dog that’s going def, my pup knows lots of hand cues, but without getting her attention, of course, she doesn’t see commands to follow the cues.

So, I did some digging and see a lot of people with def dogs A) keep the dog on leash all the time, or B) use the vibrating collars, so the dog looks for the commands when it feels the collar

So, this guys 10yr old jack russell has way to much energy to be kept on leash & is well behaved when it knows what you want from it, but its been having trouble, as its is almost def now, you really have to yell at it to get its attention and its getting jumpy, probably gets startled not hearing things come up on it.

So, I’d like to use my dog as a Guinea Pig. She already knows the hand commands for many things like come,down,sit & stand, so we’ve got head start & I can focus on getting her used to the collar & following commands with out verbal cues. The Jack Russel already has to start learning hand cue’s for the commands, so I don’t want to jump right into a collar too to just compound what it has to learn or get used to.

So, my question is, how do you desensitize the dog, so it doesn’t see the vibration as a punishment, but as a cue for ‘look at me’ & even tougher, how do you get the def dog used to it?

Is their any negatives with using one of these things? The cheapest one we could find is a combo shock/vibrating one…I do think their is some cases where you might need a pinch or shock collar, but both my pup and this other dog are good dogs & we are not interested in punishing our dogs, but we want to improve the quality of life for his def dog and we are both short on extra $$, so cheep is good on the collar & my free training is all he can afford….trainers at petco are no help & the only experienced trainer who he found to help wanted 150$ an hour..phhh, whos got that kinda cash.

Anyone with a def dog? Anyone use one of the things in any context, for corrections for fun? I need some input!!

THANKS!
Mutt for the Truth –

That is exactly want I did NOT want to do, that lady is just electrocuting dogs left and right!!!

She’s got little puppies who she wants to teach their names to and she’s using the collar (maybe only the vibrate function) as a negative reinforcement tool. She is lazy if not cruel, those poor thing. Nothing should EVER be taught with negative reinforcement.

Somehow for someone who endorses that the backyard breeder who is zap happy lady, you seem to get it right, you can use negative reinforcement to PROOF things that have ALREADY been taught…like you did.

But it sill doesn’t help me turn something the dog may find negative as yours did (though you used that to your advantage) to something the dog finds positive .
I never said “positive only”, I just said you don’t teach an exercise using negative methods… Like teaching a puppy its name by scaring it with a vibrating collar until it responds to its name like in one of the videos I watched of that lady who is trying to sell puppies on youtube, def BYBer and an awful looking one at that.

I was the one who said I WAS going to use a pager collar, but instead of what you did, using it as punishment when your dog pulled or broke a heel, which I again, completely agree with and endorse, and its great you did it with a vibrate not a shock,no different than restraining with a flat collar I’d say, I was looking for comments like what you followed up with, vibrate treat, vibrate treat, like you’d teach a hearing dog to come to a dog whistle..or the ‘come’ command.

I was just looking for someone who had done it or had another idea as I can find testaments about people who say how great it is…but not walk through the steps of how they did it

Ena

Vic Lee asked:




Is your dog barking uncontrollably? Many dog owners get worried or annoyed by chronic dog barking and don’t know how to keep their dog from barking and disturbing the neighbors.

One of the most common ways to stop excessive dog barking is with a No Bark Dog Collar. However this should not be your first option.

A dog naturally barks as a way to warn you or when something or someone is invading its territory.

The first step you must take is to find out what or why your dog is barking. For example your dog may be barking at a neighbor’s cat or the shadow of a tree moving with the wind or in worst cases it can be someone trespassing into your property.

However, using a no bark dog collar is a good choice to help your dog stop barking and unnecessary things that do not pose a threat.

How Does a No Bark Dog Collar Work?

This collar is placed on your dogs neck, just like any other collar except when your dog barks a gentle electric simulation is sent which can be controlled by a remote. Your dog will start to understand that every time it barks an uncomfortable electric current is sent and therefore will stop barking.

Using a no bark collar is an okay choice, but should not be your first choice when trying to help your dog to stop barking. Remember that barking is natural to your dog and you will not and should not eliminate it completely as it is a way to warn you and others of any dangers or threats.

Make sure the collar you buy for your dog is right for your dogs size and check with a dog trainer or vet to make sure the a no bark dog collar is the best solution for you and your dog.

Katharina